Shaalos-Q&A Archive: 1) Kedusha of Musaf during Shemoneh Esrei of Shacharis; 2) Kohanim by Duchan if only one Kohen

  1. Question: [Sunday, 7th MarCheshvan, 5781]

If I began Davening Shemoneh Esrei of Shacharis simultaneously with the Chazan starting his repetition of Musaf, may I answer Kedusha when I reach Kedusha together with him?



This matter is debated amongst the Poskim, and practically we [Ashkenazim] rule that it may be done. One is to only say Kadosh, Baruch Kevod, and Yimloch together with the Chazan, and not Keser or any of the additions for Musaf. If one desires to escape the debate, he is to simply arrange to not be by the conclusion of Michayeh Meisim when the Chazan reaches it in his repetition.


Sources: See Michaber and Rama 109:3 who debate this matter; Admur 109:5 that the main opinion follows the Rama ibid, and that this applies even if one missed Nakdishach; Piskeiy Teshuvos 109:5 that some Poskim rule that those who pray Nussach Sefard are to follow the Michaber.

  1. Question: [Sunday, 7th MarCheshvan, 5781]

Is one to say Kohanim if there is only one Kohen by the Duchan? I was in a Shul in which the Chazan, who considers himself a pulpit Rabbi called Kohanim for a single Kohen who went up to Duchan. Is this correct?



No. It is only said if there are two Kohanim by the Duchan. It is not even said if there is one Kohen and his son who is under Bar Mitzvah. It could be the Chazan simply mistakenly thought that there were two Kohanim there, or made an error in judgement. However, from experience, it is also equally possible that the Chazan simply does not know the Halacha. There are pulpit Rabbis, while serving as community leaders, who are not well versed in Jewish law, never having studied it thoroughly and properly as would be required by a Posek, or even a regular individual who wants to master the Halachic directives for his daily life. Thus, I would suggest you ask him the question as to why he said Kohanim with only one Kohen and inform him of the Jewish law if he was unaware.


Sources: Michaber 128:10; Admur 128:15; Abayey Sotah 38a; Rambam Tefila 14:8; M”A 128:13; Mabit 1:64

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